Push for lemur

that's exciting

so...how is that implemented for the user? hitting different areas of the pad = different velocity?

Nope . Pressure

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/10/ableton-live-goodies-push-free/

wul check it out

I'm having issues getting this working on Mac... running Mountain Lion (10.8), Lemur 4.1, Ableton Live 9.01, Shove 1.1

I installed the ClyphX and Push scripts, added the "PUSH EMULATION =ON" line to the UserSettings.txt file. In Live's MIDI settings, I have a Clyph Control Surface with No Input and No Output, and a Push Control Surface set to Lemur Daemon 0 for Input and Output, I also have Push Input set to Track (ON) and Remote (ON) and the Push Output set to Track (ON) and Sync (ON), Remote (OFF).

Lemur on the iPad is sending MIDI fine - i.e. I can hit the pads in record mode and the track receives data. It just seems that the Control Surface aspect isn't working - no transport control, Browse, etc.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
josh.

wurlt01 wrote:http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/10/ableton-live-goodies-push-free/

wul check it out

Ooer ........never been reviewed before

Just got their meeblip synth that createdigitalmuic are involved with. It comes highly recommended .

Re. Velocity and aftertouch I have it working. But I strongly suspect it would be affected by a busy template even though an Unmodified shove uses under 30%, as it relies on the frame rate.

I just downloaded Shove, followed the simple configuration directions and ...Voila! I'm rockin' PUSH on my Lemur!

My mind is truly blown. Thank you, wul! You have got some mad skills there, friend.

edit: figured it out.

Subject: Re: Push for lemur + PXT-LIVE from nativeKontrol

HI WUL,

thanks for your amazing work! I´m a big fan!
It runs and I had a very good time with it!

Now I´m wondering if I could use PXT-Live from STRAY from nativeKontrol to ad more features on it?

Do you think, that would run?

Thanks for your answer.
best wishes from germany,

Gerd Dirty


Edit:

here is what stray has answered:

Welcome to the forum. I can't answer the first or second questions as I don't own an iPad and have never used SHOVE.

On the 3rd question, if it is indeed a complete emulation then, yes, it has to work. It's quite possible that it isn't a complete emulation though.

In order to be complete, in addition to sending/receiving the CCs/notes/SysEx used for the controls and display, it would also need to:

Provide 2 sets of ports; one set for Live (the default) Mode and one set for User Mode.

Receive the SysEx messages the Push script sends when the User Button is pressed to switch between the two sets of ports.

Send a SysEx response indicating that the mode has changed.

I could only suggest that you speak with the developer and ask if these things are implemented and, if not, ask for them to be added. If the developer needs information on the SysEx messages involved, they're welcome to contact me. A portion of the involved messages are covered in this document in the Other SysEx section.

Here its the Link about the SysEx messages from PUSH: https://app.box.com/s/w900ll2tq3tj83raes2a

GERDDiRTY..... To be honest I'm note sure if it will work also I'm limited to what I can check now.

I found the PDF from nativekontrol a week ago . I certainly wish I'd have had it earlier , although I noticed some sysex messages missing from it .

edit..... it will not work without major modification.

Thanks for the comments though.

Just installed Shove. Seems to work well, except two encoders in the top left corner (Tempo and Quantize). When I move, say, the Tempo encoder, the tempo value in Ableton is not changing (Ableton Live 9.06, OS X 10.9). Is this a known issue?

Is it possible to add another page to the template with a very basic mixer and maybe a channel strip like livecontrol 2 without destroying the rest of the template ? I find the volume controls etc quite difficult to use . If this is possible I can go ahead and attempt to do it with my zero knowledge .

The key thing you have to remember is that anything you add, even to a new interface/page (that isn't shove related) is that all the objects have to be assigned to a different lemur midi port .and then setup for remote in lives prefs.
All shoves objects are assigned to midi0 so avoid that . It's also a good idea to use the parent method of assigning midi ports ...... A bit of advice I should follow

This is fantastic! Well done. As a very happy Push user, I'm super happy to have this as an option when travelling light. It's working perfectly in 9, but can't seem to get it working on the 9.1 beta. Should it be? The melodic sequencer makes it too hard for me to move back to 9.

Should it be?

Yes.I have working the melodic sequencer.The only thing i can,t get it,s to change from scene workflow to clip workflow, but everything works right, including the step sequencer.

Edited: Shove stops working since the new beta b26.I changed to Mavericks on osx so maybe something changed.
Can anyone confirm that with the new beta b26 shove works?.I was using the handshake method.

Re-edited: I restarted the computer and everything works fine again.

Hi guys,

1st off - WUL -> Mad skillz yo! Loving this template.

2nd - Everything works except when in note mode pressing a note does not light up the other same notes and there is no feedback of play position in drum seq mode.

Setup:
Windows 8.0
Ableton Live 9.0.6 w/ ORIGINAL Push script (you don't need replacement script when using ClyphX yeah?)
ClyphX v2.3.6 (have added "PUSH_EMULATION = ON" to user settings.)
iPad 4 w/ iOS 6

MIDI prefs:
Control surface section
Push control surface - ins and outs going to LoopMIDI
ClyphX - only selected, no in's or out's
MIDI Ports section
Track/Remote ON for Push INPUT
Track/Sync ON for Push OUTPUT

What have i missed?

After driving myself crazy trying to make this bloody thing work on a Mac, I finally figured out an important point - and everything fell into place.

Well, not figured out, but reread everything and noticed that wul mentioned early on that IF YOU INSTALL THE CLYPHX FLODER, YOU DO NOT NEED TO CHANGE THE PUSH FOLDER IN ANY WAY.

Meaning: do not touch that folder labelled 'Push' in the resources folder, as other step by step guides suggest to do. Leave it as it is, fresh out of the Ableton factory. Simply add the ClyphX folder (downloaded using the link that's floating round in this discussion), and that's it. Alter the important 'enable Push' line if you need to, although the version I downloaded had this done already.

If you have previously screwed with the original Push folder and replaced it with the 'new', suggested version, put the original one back. When I did this, all worked flawlessly. I was getting that situation that I've seen described before - the pads worked at transmitting note data, but nothing else did. I could play notes, but that's it.

That was my solution, hope it works for others!

Hello Liine community!

I have the strange problem that Shove suddenly stops working after about 10 seconds.
Only midi notes are still sent out.
When i temporary select "none" control surface and then reselect push, it starts working again for just 10 seconds!?
Did anybody experienced the same or knows what the could be the reason?
I am using Live 9.0.2, ClyphX 2.3.6, Shove 1.1 and the orginal Live Push folder.
Thank you very much for your help!


Best regrads
Marxon

My response was going to be update to 9.0.6, but live 9.1 came out today....

Marxon wrote:Hello Liine community!

I have the strange problem that Shove suddenly stops working after about 10 seconds.
Only midi notes are still sent out.
When i temporary select "none" control surface and then reselect push, it starts working again for just 10 seconds!?
Did anybody experienced the same or knows what the could be the reason?
I am using Live 9.0.2, ClyphX 2.3.6, Shove 1.1 and the orginal Live Push folder.
Thank you very much for your help!


Best regrads
Marxon

Hi again,

Problem solved!
After reinstalling Live, everything was fine


Best regards
Marxon

I've installed this on my iPad and in the Midiscripts. I can get the control to trigger notes and that's it. I'm not seeing the lemur profile responding in anyway. I can't get any of the buttons on the sides to do anything.

I'm running 9.1 on Mac OSX.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/NxPGo6M.png[/img]

Any idea what I'm doing wrong here? What should my settings be in the Lemur app?