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Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 21 May 2014 11:54
by grillo
Hello all

I would like to know what kind of midi message i have to send to a lemur liine vu meter or a signal scope?

I have built a lemur line controler for my Usine Hollywock, but i need some vu meters on my ipad.

Someone could explain to me how to do it please?

Regards

Grillo

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 21 May 2014 12:28
by Softcore
The question is not what Lemur does...the question is what Usine sends....Does it even send midi messages that relate to volume level?

The only DAW I have ever witnessed doing it natively (besides using MCU protocol that is) is Bitwig Studio.

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 21 May 2014 13:15
by grillo
Softcore wrote:The question is not what Lemur does...the question is what Usine sends....Does it even send midi messages that relate to volume level?

The only DAW I have ever witnessed doing it natively (besides using MCU protocol that is) is Bitwig Studio.
I don t think that Usine can natively send midi messages that relate to volume level.

I think i will have to make a kind of converter for this.

But my question is also: What i have to do to affect this messages to a Vu meter in Lemur?

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 21 May 2014 14:42
by Softcore
You are thinking this the wrong way.....first you make sure that midi messages that represent volume level are being sent, then you design a VU meter that works according to those midi messages. Its like asking "how can I make fader move according to the fader in my DAW".....well you just map it to the midi message related to that fader (in the software).

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 21 May 2014 14:48
by Macciza
Fortunately Usine has a Max-like environment where you should be able to extract the info you need ...
If you convert it to a CC message you can send that to Lemur and use that to control whatever
There are a few Level meter projects around to look at or build one yourself with Leds or the Canvas
First will be sorting out how to get the data out of Usine and also think about what you want it to look like in Lemur
And we'll take it from there .. ..

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 21 May 2014 15:23
by grillo
Ok Guys

Thank you a lot for your answers.

I will look for in this direction.
I think it s possible in Usine, to convert sounds level to cc messages.

But unlike a fader, there is no medi learn for a VU meter. How to assign it to the dedicaded midi messages

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 21 May 2014 15:58
by Softcore
obviously you must have downloaded something from these forums or the user area? Post a link to it here, and then we see how it works.

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 21 May 2014 20:39
by grillo

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 22 May 2014 06:10
by Softcore
Ah I see.....This is supposed to work with OSC messages.....

Furthermore, I tried to open it in Lemur and all I get is some un-referenced aliases...

IMHO you might want to start all over, with a quite different approach: for example, you can use a simple "multislder" as a level meter. Mapping it to the incoming CC messages of level will give you a nice level meter. Furthermore, if you would like to have a multicolor (displaying different colors according to the peak level) you could use a "canvas" colored object and overlay a black canvas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O2bzYrdrh0

Here's the relevant template if you are interested.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l7fma8sdpd0v7ig/LeBit.zip

Re: Messages for a vu meter

Posted: 22 May 2014 06:22
by grillo
Great!!

Thank you very much fr your help! I will follow your advices.

Regards

G