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Hey,
Excitedly purchased Lemur for iPad a few days ago to use for live shows, and have been experiencing extreme frustration with actually getting it up and running with the Editor.

I am creating an ad-hoc network. I have tried both types on encryption, as well as no password.
iPad sees it and appears to connect (displays an IP address) but both the Lemur editor and Daemon seem completely random as to whether they see the iPad or not. Sometimes the iPad will appear in the Editor's Connection box, sometimes it doesn't. ditto with the Daemon. Last night it was working fine, this morning - nothing.

Are the editor and daemon known to be buggy with ad-hoc connections? Or is this some other hidden setting on the laptop or ipad?

I'm using iPad 2 / iOS7, MBP, OSX 10.9.2, latest Lemur & editor (downloaded a few days ago).

Any help greatly appreciated.

Cheers

I had lots of problems when I first got lemur too - setting up static IP adresses instead of dynamic ones sorted them all out, all be it, with a windows machine

Thanks for the reply.
I have tried static IPs as documented elsewhere, unfortunately with no better results.

I'm thinking this might be an iOS7 issue, going by comments posted on the Apple support forums.
Is there an official response from Liine about this? Is it a known issue? Seems to be a lot of people having Ad-hoc probs with Lemur and iOS7, around the web. Enough that it perhaps warrants a bugfix on Liine's part?

I'll try on my Win7 machine to see if that fares any better.

Cheers

iOS 7 latest here, and two windows machines, one 7 64 bit and one 7 32 bit - never had connection problems with both of the machines.

try the following example (you can use different numbers for the IP address):

IP computer: 129.168.1.30 with subnetmask 255.255.255.0

IP iPad: 129.168.1.31 with subnetmask 255.255.255.0

This should give you a reliable and stable connection. Make sure to have installed the latest driver for your wifi cards.

Phil999 wrote:try the following example (you can use different numbers for the IP address):

IP computer: 129.168.1.30 with subnetmask 255.255.255.0

IP iPad: 129.168.1.31 with subnetmask 255.255.255.0

This should give you a reliable and stable connection. Make sure to have installed the latest driver for your wifi cards.

Thanks appreciate the replies.
I've tried that before, and just tried again with those exact settings.

No luck.

Set up network in OSX, then set IP manually to 129.168.1.30, Subnet to 255.255.255.0
iPad sees the network, set its IP manually to 129.168.1.31, Subnet to the above.
iPad says it has connected.

Run Lemur app, open the editor on the Macbook, hit the connect button. No devices listed.
Manually enter the iPad's IP (129.168.1.31) and get the message "Unable to connect, host must be busy. Please check destination address and retry"

I have tried this a dozen times now, without success.
I should say that wifi works fine on both the MB and the iPad, I use them every day for work.

I will add that there is no external wifi signal (actually there is a very faint, unusable one) in my studio, but I doubt that makes any difference?

The Macbook is running the latest OS updates, ditto the iPad. Very mysterious, very frustrating.
I have read a fair bit of grumbling on the Apple forums about shoddy ad-hoc connections between iOS7 and OSX.
I have no doubt that it works fine for others, but it doesn't work for me and I give you my word that I am not blundering in the dark here (I am quite computer literate, work in IT albeit not networking).

Any more help greatly appreciated. Would be good to be able to actually use this app..

Cheers

Ok, I think I may have gotten to the bottom of this.

I was poking about in the editor settings box looking for the Just Bloody Work Dammit button, and under the ipad tab found a dropdown menu for ip address.. And a different ip was selected, presumably from a previous connection.
I changed it to the one I was currently using and the editor saw and connected to the ipad. Phew.

I haven't read any mention of that menu so thought I'd post it to save someone else the frustration.

Hoping this has been resolved now.. Now off to debug bidirectional midi issues

Cheers

that was probably the IP address of your ethernet card. Anyway, glad you found the solution. I am not computer literate, and it took me months to learn how to connect through wifi.

Wish you much fun, I think this is a special moment. For me it was. The beginning of something very exciting.

Thanks Phil, yes very excited.

Stay tuned for me "tried for hours and I still can't get bidirectional MIDI working with Ableton" post any minute now

Remember to enable Remote in Lives MIDI settings for whatever Output you are using to send back to Lemur
Once you have connection between Lemur and the computer the Live setup should be the same as for any MIDI device . .
MM