MIDI Kinetics Forum

Hi

My first project with Lemur is designing an interface for a soft synth (ImpOscar). All the controls work and knobs and sliders do as they are required.
I was wondering if it is possible to have the soft synth feed Lemur with the switch positions. The reason I ask is that when loading a preset, it would be nice to have all the controls on Lemur would change to reflect the position of the switches when the preset is loaded.

If it is possible, how do I do this ?

I'm totally new at this so any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Alan

not sure about that man! it will defo involve a script being written for the lemur to update setting from the softsynth?
i would maybe say making a max patch that deals with the settings on the synth and sends them to the lemur via osc
hopefully someone will clear this up

if the switches are controllable in the softsynth, you can simply create switches in Lemur like you did for the knobs, and it will reflect the newly loaded preset's state.

I have the switches controlingl the on / off sequence. What I want to know is that if I were to operate the switches on the synth itself, would the change be reflected in Lemur. More specifically, if I were to load a new preset into the synth, can I set up Lemur to mirror the changes to all the knobs and switches.

Thanks
Alan

Lemur is per se bi-directonal, so everything that is controlled and mapped will be displayed in Lemur after a preset change or mouse input.

@Phil999, is there a setting to change to make Lemur recognize the changes. I have switches, knobs and sliders that work perfectly in changing the settings on the synth and they map perfectly, the problem is when I change to a different preset on the synth (not thru Lemur) all the settings on the synth change to reflect the new preset and those new settings are not reflected in Lemur, If I touch a control in Lemur, the settings on the synth jump to Lemur's setting.

it appears you don't have bi-birectional control. ImpOSCar in standalone does not send MIDI feedback to Lemur, you will have to use a DAW's function to have feedback.

As Phil already said, MOST of plug ins do not support bi-directional communication - in other words, they receive midi messages to alter the state of their controls but they do not SEND midi messages when the controls are changed from the GUI. This is why your best bet is to map the controls using the DAW's midi mapping functions instead of the plug in's. Each DAW has a different method of going about this, but all are pretty much straightforward - consult your DAW's manual and dont forget to delete-erase any midi mappiings made in the native system of the plug in as those will not be used!

That's too bad , thanks for the info

personally I find this good, because I can do all my control setup in one place and with the same method. In fact, the choice of my DAW (Cubase) was entirely based on its superior controlling abilities. I could have worked with any other DAW, it doesn't really matter to me. But parameter feedback to the plugins is a necessity for me.

Today, just as a side-note, I would choose a DAW that supports OSC. OSC is better than MIDI, higher resolution and transmitting parameter names to controllers. The only possible downside is the need for a stable wireless connection. But if you have that already, OSC is as reliable as MIDI with cables.

I would recommend Reaper. Easy to install and maintain (no dongle), and actually the only DAW with 'open' OSC controlling (Logic's OSC controlling is somewhat limited).