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controller feedback and external midi devices

Posted: 09 May 2012 02:22
by acidan
Hi Folks

Ive come across a bit of a stumbling block and was hoping you guys could chip in with some advice.

Im using lemur to control an external midi device through ableton live.

In my midi channel settings I have (midi from > Daemon Input 0)

the only way I can get lemur to respond to ableton is if I set (midi to > Daemon Output 0)

this is no good to me because in order to control my external device I have to set (midi > midi output 1) ie the physical midi port connected to my device.

It seems that I cannot have both visual feed back on the lemur and external midi control at the same time.

Does anyone know of a work around?

Cheers

Dan

Re: controller feedback and external midi devices

Posted: 09 May 2012 16:44
by pablo1980
I am having the same problem with Cubase and Vsti.....it seems that we are out of luck so far...

Re: controller feedback and external midi devices

Posted: 10 May 2012 04:34
by Macciza
Hi
In Live you should be able to duplicate a MIDI track(or more) and set it to receive MIDI from another track and send it to a different particular output. This should allow you to output to both devices. Did I understand your issue properly and does this provide a solution.
Cheers
MM

Re: controller feedback and external midi devices

Posted: 10 May 2012 22:45
by acidan
Thankyou Macciza. Your work around works pretty well although I still have a couple of minor issues to resolve.

When controlling the multiball object the other balls stop responding to incoming midi.

Also, when I release my finger from the multiball, the physics become very jerky and dont work properly, even with 0 friction the balls still stop straight away.

Im guessing this is down to lemur getting confused by a midi feedback loop?

This is great progress, hopefully you guys will have some more sound advice to getting this working more smoothly.

Cheers

Re: controller feedback and external midi devices

Posted: 11 May 2012 22:37
by acidan
@ Adlearee, are you experiencing any jerkiness with controls that have any physics attributes switched on? I think that midi feedback is bypassed internally until the control has been physically released, hence multi-objects stopping feedback whilst being controlled. I'm not 100% sure though, may be someone @ Liine can confirm this.

I'm controlling a second computer running bidule via ableton live on the main computer. At the moment the midi data is transmitted over a wifi network using midi studio (built in to osx). I will test this using a wired network and a line 6 midi mobilizer 2 tomorrow.

I'll let you guys know how I get on.

The main caveat with this method is that you need to record and edit 2 lanes of midi data which, when editing can go out of sync if you're not careful. not the end of the world but something to bear in mind.