MIDI Kinetics Forum

First, I had this working fine before. I used it a few times since I got it, 3 days ago. Last night I wanted to make some funky beats, but instead spent 3 hours trying to connect the Lemur. 3 hours. 3 f'ing hours. Finally fed up and tired I figured I would try again this morning. After 1 hour of trying and 1 hour online searching the forum, I figure it is time to post before I have a stepped on MBP and new iPad. I bought this iPad strictly due to Lemur.
I have:
Macbook Pro
iPad (3rd gen)
I am trying to get Ambivalent Beats to work, connecting the iPad to Live. I DID have it working before, and can not think of anything that changed.

The problem seems to be the Ad Hoc connection, and people have had this issue, because if I look up 169.254 on the forum there are some posts, however no one has been nice enough to post what actually fixed it for them. I WILL do that if someone can help me get this running.
Note: I have rebooted the MBP and the iPad numerous times.
Note: I just connected Traktor to Lemur, so the iPad MBP connection is working. However, if I try to connect the Lemur Editor to the iPad, using the i.p. in the iPad (169.254.26.163), Lemur Editor closes as soon as I hit ok.

So, I create a network, name it foo, use ch 11, and no password.
Then go to the iPad, connect to that network, and I do NOT get an i.p. address.
If I open lemur, after a few seconds I can click MIDI and select a Daemon Output and Input. Apparently at that point it connects via wifi.
At that point it will show up on Lemur Daemon, but sometimes it will disappear. This makes me think my Ad Hoc is flakey, but why?

I use Little Snitch (which was not a problem before) and something I noticed is that if I go into Live and drag over Ambivalent Beats to the Midi Channel, I will get:
"Live wants to connect to 192.168.0.10 on UDP port 8000 (irdmi)"
Why is it connecting to 192.168.0.10? It seems Live now wants to connect to that because it worked for it before.
If I tell Little Snitch to allow it to communicate on any port etc, it still does not work. Just wondering why it asks to connect to that i.p. address, considering Lemur/iPad will not always be on that I.P.

Another question is, do you have to use an Ad Hoc, or can you just connect the iPad via usb and use this. I really dont care which I use I just want it to work!

Help is GREATLY appreciated.

Ok so I got it to work. Still not sure why "Auto" doesnt work.
First I created a network on my Android phone using that sweet sweet PDAnet 3.50.
Then I connected to it via my Mac and iPad. This assigned normal I.P. addresses.
Once I did this and followed the AB instructions, it worked in Auto.

Next as a test I disconnected everything and created an Ad Hoc network on my Mac.
This is when I noticed (derr) the Lemur Setup Auto/Manual section of AB in Live.
Again it did not work in Auto, but when I switched to manual, put in the iPad i.p (169.254.***.***) and fiddled around for a minute loading the template, it worked.

The question still remains, why do I keep getting the self assigned (169) i.p.? Also I have had this issue numerous times in the past, usually when I am at a coffee shop or something, I keep getting dropped connections and self assigned i.p.s etc. I notice it mostly when there are a lot of available wifi connections.

Also, when using 169 I can now get it to work with AB and Live, but when I try to connect with Lemur Editor, it closes the Lemur Editor app immediately.

Anyone have some insight on the couple remaining issues/questions?

Thanks again

Still having massive problems with both Ad Hoc and wireless connections. Ad Hoc rarely works for me. Also, using a connection with a wifi router works sometimes, but is also very flakey.
I mostly get "Unable to Connect, host may be busy" from Lemur Editor

Anyone have any advice?

Hi
It was a bit hard to follow your descriptions at times but it really should be this difficult.
Not sure what you mean by 'normal ip address' - nothing is wrong with 169.254
Make sure you are running the latest versions of the software - App, Editor and Daemon, reinstall to make sure.
Don't worry about Little Snitch and disable Firewall to get things sorted - if you want to configure them later you can.
Starting your network it assigns itself an address via DHCP you can also designate your own address if you want.
Go to settings on the iPad and select the network you just made and join it - it should assign itself anip address via dhcp from the Mac network
Start Lemur app, go to settings and check that OSC 0 is set to the computer ip and port 8000. -It should match automatically most of the time.
Start Live and drop the AmbBeats.amxd on a track, wait for M4L to start , hit rescan if it hasn't found the network, it should be able to
Drop the Ambivalent Beats jzml into Live and it should transfer it and your good to go . . .

The 169.254 address is simply one of the public address ranges like 192.168 or 10.0 nothing wrong with using it.
Also, make sure you don't have any other apps running on the iPad that might be using port 8000

Try all that and see if that works.
Cheers
MM