lemur on the stage ....and wifi...

[Joe Soap]

Hey Phil, the Emulator business looks really interesting doesn't it?

Ever had the chance to play with it, or know anyone who has? It all looks sorta quiet - I'd have expected more of a song and dance about the idea because that Traktor demo sells the notion more immediately than almost any other touch UI promo piece I've seen to date.

Also . . . thought for the day. Could something like that be built using the Max touch libs and some judicious use of window transparencies?

[zengel]

ah, now I start to understand what you mean. I didn't know about tablets with wired connections for OSC generally..... Can you send/receive OSC with Android TouchOSC or other apps through wired connections?

Off course ! There multiple usb tethering apps on android and you just have to run it and connect your android device to share a network. And you will have both osc and midi in a strong stable connection.as long as ipad don t have it ,lemur on it will never be equal to the original lemur. You can give lot s of " new fantastic fonction" but if the ground basic fonctionnalities can t work properly , what does it means ??? Nothing serious.

Really i regret the liine choice for ipad ,cause apple are short minded. I just wait the jailbreak of ios6 and i will jailbreak this stupid ipad . I don t care what apple and liine say. You know i have a stage in 5 days and i can t use the liine lemur. I had to buy a new lemur (jazzmutant) and put my short template on it... Im really really disappointed .i bought an ipad for nothing , i developped on the liine lemur using the new fonctions and the great amount of memory ( that is the big point of the old lemurs...) ,all this to see that s it s unusable in stage condition !!! For now i lost a lot of time and money since i can jailbreak this piece of sh.. .

[Phil999]

Hey Phil, the Emulator business looks really interesting doesn't it?

Ever had the chance to play with it, or know anyone who has?

it was $99 last autumn - I guess I was just too occupied with other stuff that I didn't get it. The demo is good, and the idea of having the target application below that can partly be revealed with transparent holes is clever. I only have a dual-touch monitor, but even with that it works well. That was my initial idea, a full HD touchscreen running a controller application like Surface Editor (which is free), later came Emulator. But as I'm traveling a lot, smaller tablets are portable and serve me better. But I'm sure I will get a big touchscreen or computer soon, they have become better and affordable.

@zengel: there are people using iPads on stage. I do it almost every month. It is or can be tricky, but it's possible to have permanent connection for a night.

[zengel]

Ok . How then ????? I thought about boosting the wifi signal , but yesterday we made (last) try with my drummer . It seems that in some maner and enven if the connection is good (less than 20 cm from the computer ) sometime when you press. The lemur also don t react.... Just less more time....wtf...today i connect my new old lemur...never have this kind of problem with it .
I also wait and want to make an interface with touchscreen computers and usine. But i wait to test the ipad jailbreak to make my futur choice.

[Softcore]

I have heard of jailbreaks but since Im a really new user of iPads (and iOS in general) what difference would jailbreaking an iPad make? What functionality would it add to be used by Lemur?

Im not sarcastic in any way, genuine interest as Im so uneducated in iOS systems as educated I am in Windows. I know of course jailbreaking is not supported or endorsed by Apple, Im just asking...

[Phil999]

Ok . How then ?????

there are numerous threads dealing with WiFi problems. Maybe you should really give some details about your setup? We're simply unable to help without.

[Joe Soap]

I have heard of jailbreaks but since Im a really new user of iPads (and iOS in general) what difference would jailbreaking an iPad make? What functionality would it add to be used by Lemur?

Im not sarcastic in any way, genuine interest as Im so uneducated in iOS systems as educated I am in Windows. I know of course jailbreaking is not supported or endorsed by Apple, Im just asking...

It would allow one to connect tthe iDevice to a computer (networking) over the standard 30-pin port to USB, using the standard charging cable.

You know - like it would be in any sane universe.

[zengel]

Ok . How then ?????

there are numerous threads dealing with WiFi problems. Maybe you should really give some details about your setup? We're simply unable to help without.

I already gived you my setup. Windows 7 pro quad core 4meg ram . Connection wifi ad hoc static ip on ipad and computer . What else . Of course no firewall the computer only dedicated on the live set . Wifi canal 11 ( france) . Alteady tested the 1 and 6th ( recommanded innfrance to), no change.

[zengel]

I have heard of jailbreaks but since Im a really new user of iPads (and iOS in general) what difference would jailbreaking an iPad make? What functionality would it add to be used by Lemur?

Im not sarcastic in any way, genuine interest as Im so uneducated in iOS systems as educated I am in Windows. I know of course jailbreaking is not supported or endorsed by Apple, Im just asking...

It would allow one to connect tthe iDevice to a computer (networking) over the standard 30-pin port to USB, using the standard charging cable.

You know - like it would be in any sane universe.

Apple don t want because of the money providers make with hot spot solution for the ipad . And we customers can t use usb tethering because of their greed . I absolutly don t care to share internet on my stupid ipad . I already have my android tab or my android phone to do that . They are stupid . Hope liine put lemur on android quick !!!! For futur customers !

[Joe Soap]

I have heard of jailbreaks but since Im a really new user of iPads (and iOS in general) what difference would jailbreaking an iPad make? What functionality would it add to be used by Lemur?

Im not sarcastic in any way, genuine interest as Im so uneducated in iOS systems as educated I am in Windows. I know of course jailbreaking is not supported or endorsed by Apple, Im just asking...

It would allow one to connect tthe iDevice to a computer (networking) over the standard 30-pin port to USB, using the standard charging cable.

You know - like it would be in any sane universe.

Apple don t want because of the money providers make with hot spot solution for the ipad . And we customers can t use usb tethering because of their greed . I absolutly don t care to share internet on my stupid ipad . I already have my android tab or my android phone to do that . They are stupid . Hope liine put lemur on android quick !!!! For futur customers !

Sure, I know the reasons.

Teat-suckling, rent-seeking . . . but hey, what's a moral hazard or two between business partners eh?

And f*ck Android too. Bin the toy operating systems and hardware curated by phone manufacturers / telecoms and release on Windows / OSX.