Ableton Live basic Template

[julien]

hi there, I'd need some help.
I want to build a template including:
- my Ableton Live's grid clips (control and visual feedbacks),
- a lot of rotary knobs + faders to control some parameters

For the rotary knobs + faders part, it is ok.
I don't want the automatic dynamic assignement (blue hand) so I'll use MIDI CC basically.
My liveset global structure is almost every time the same so I can easily map my macros etc.

For the clip grid, I know I have to use some python remote script or m4L.
Is there something existing already I could copy paste into one template's page (interface I mean) ??

I know I could use griid for that but I need to control knobs + faders too and I have currently one iPad only so ..

Any ideas would help me a lot.

[Softcore]

I think I have got just the right tool for you! Its a web app I had discovered when I was tinkering with Ableton's Python Midi Remote scripts. What you can basically do with it, is define the note on-offs of your "matrix" controller in any configuration of columns and rows and then it will automagically create the PY scripts for you.

Check it out!

http://modern.dj/app/

P.S. - requires registration but I have never received spam from them!

[julien]

I need to use Lemur App for many other reasons..

[Softcore]

Uhmmm, perhaps you didnt understand me!

lets say you create a 8x8 pads matrix in Lemur and define note on pitches for each pad. Using the app in the link I provided you can quickly and without programming knowledge create a PY script that will "talk" to your Lemur matrix pads and take care of all the mappings internally in Ableton Live.
All you have to do is provide to the web app the note ons that you have defined in your Lemur project - also, optionally you can create scene and clip navigation buttons, and stop buttons for each track. Then the app creates aPY script which you download and install in Live. Then your Lemur clip grid has its own control surface option present in Ableton Live "control surface" dropdown menus, you also get the known "square" that shows you what your pads actually controlling, and you are set to go!

[julien]

indeed, I probably didn't understand
and indeed it could help me to save time (because this is my point here. I'm okay with the python or m4l side of things but totally RUSHY for my next live performance and this is the first time I'll use Lemur App on stage )

so .. thanks a lot.
posting as soon as I'll have set up this

[Macciza]

Hi
Have you checked out the User Library? There are several Live Clip Manipulator examples there and several DJ Live solutions as well . .
Some use Live API some dont, they are definitely worth a look . . .
Depending on level of interactivity, feedback etc you don't necessarily need Python or M4L . .
A lot can be done with CCs and the feedback Live provides anyway see http://liine.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1970
A lot depends on what you want to achieve and how much complexity/overloading you are interested in implementing . . .
And of course how much time you have to code it up . .
Cheers
MM

[julien]

as soon as you want to deal with clips and don't want to map things statically (of course), py or m4l are required.

[Softcore]

My thoughts exactly - I have a standard template in Live with which I perform and I dont need dynamic mapping of vlume controls, effects etc as these are always the same and standardised.

BUT the clip grid? Its only useful to use a controller if there is dynamic mapping either via Python or M4L!

As for the web app I provided the link for, tried it last night but there is a major flaw - no reliable feedback back into lemur - you cant be sure whether a clipslot is playing, occupied by a clip or empty....So its not really that useful.