Pad with XY messages?

[FriFlo]

Is there an object like the pad, which can send XY messages and Z-message? Would be like mixing a Pad and a Ball object, but without the ball actually showing up ...

[FriFlo]

Just looked through the manual of the original Lemur and found that the gesture object would do exactly, what I am looking for. Why wasn't that included? Is it gonna be in a future update?

[marino_liine]

HI FriFio,

For the time being I can only tell you that we will keep developing and updating Lemur so any suggestion is welcome. I will take note and make sure I pass it along.

Cheers,
M.

[FriFlo]

Hi Marino,

that is great to hear! Since you seem to be very responsive to user suggestions, I would like to add this:
i hate the limitations of midi-Instruments. There have been some really great advances in that topic. One being hardware, the Haken Continuum Fingerboard (unfortunately quite unaffordable):
http://www.hakenaudio.com/Continuum/
The other one being Ipad Software by Rob Fielding:
http://rrr00bb.blogspot.com/
The last one is in free beta right now and very close to what I want.

I see great potential in Lemur to make it possible to create a multi Pad controller sending XY Messages (e.g. Pitch and Expression). If you could make this multitouch, I would have the ultimate polyphonic instrument. I have figured out ways in MaxMSP to route polyphonic playing to desired midi channels in a useful way. This would be like a rebirth of polyphonic aftertouch with the addition of free pitch control without limitations of western chromatic temperament.

Please, make me happy!

[peterdines]

Make the balls ephemeral with zero decay and release time. You won't even notice that they're there because they'll disappear when you lift your fingers.

[Robert Lauriston]

I'm interested in the same thing. Something like the Kaossilator / iKaossilator, only multitouch.

If nothing like that exists yet, is it something that I could code, or would Liine have to do some work to support that?

[bxsj]

... the gesture object can be used. It's just not available to select in the Lemur editor. But it's available in the Jazz editor. Create a template with gesture ojbect in the jazz editor and then switch to the lemur editor. It works.
Variables are angle, pan, pinch (hmmm), x and y. Attribures are acceleration, axis, boundaries, color, constrainted, name, rect and transparent.
E.g. take a look at the ABreakpoint2 template in the user library.
My 2 cents of the day.
B.
PS.: Please beware this is undocumented functionality and may very well be removed in a future update.
PSS.: What about the Built-In Accelerometer Variable?

[Robert Lauriston]

OK, I've got a Gesture object. I've mapped x to 90 - Note On with pitch set to 0-127 but it doesn't seem to trigger any notes. What else do I need to do?

Is there a sample project I can download with a Gesture object configured properly?

[Robert Lauriston]

I found ABreakpoint2, which includes a Gesture object. I matched the settings for that object in my project, but it doesn't do anything.

I created another project using masterkeyboard.jzlib and copied my Gesture object to it. The keyboard part works fine on my iPad, but the Gesture object doesn't trigger any MIDI events. I tried copying the Gesture (Amp) object from ABreakpoint2, that doesn't trigger any MIDI events either.

[Macciza]

Hi
Often it is not as simple as just cutting one little bit out - there may be scripting, variables and other objects that are needed.
There are however modules that can be put in your that do work as that sort of pre-made system. Not sure if there is one for you.
Whatever your solution is I think it may require some level of scripting to obtain the best results and flexibility.
Maybe check out the TrafficControl project in the user Library - http://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/219/

Cheers
MM