radio buttons to send note off when not the active button?

I cannot work out how to set a selection of pads, buttons, fader with steps or menu to only arm one track in ableton live 9.

each one would arm the mapped track, and all others would be turned off.

I have the nord beat 2 app running as a step sequencer. and want to switch the arming between tracks, thus selecting different racks.

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an advanced version would be instead of drum racks, it is selecting and arming tracks which each have a VST Synth on the track. The addition is to send a program change to select a patch on the synth at the same time as arming the track. (I would ideally like a specific patch (program change) rather than having it controlling and changing sequentially.)

Subject: Re: selection to arm ableton live 9 track.

I think this thread should be in general. could a mod move it? thanks

Subject: Re: selection to arm ableton live 9 track.

so i find switches have a radio mode....

all I need is to get them to send note off for all the other switches when one is selected.

does anyone know how?

current behaviour is to press a switch once to send note on the press one of the other switches, and then the one you want to send a note off. which leaves the wrong one highlighted.

once a button is highlighted, and sent the note on... another tap does not send the midi data

trying to get then for selecting and setting only one armed track out of several tracks in Ableton Live.

I need several of these sets of radio buttons,(one for drum racks, other for vst synths) so setting ableton to arm exclusive will not work.

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Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

Could you post the layout or object you're working with?
Yeah those arm buttons in ableton are a little tricky! Not the same as your run-of-the-mill on/off button, but definitely doable

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

will post the lemur files tonight or tomorrow.

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

The jzml file of my live setup:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9it66fzt3ne521a/RickDawson%20-%20Live%21.jzml?dl=0

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

Hello guys....I think but Im not sure that the arm buttons of Ableton Live are unfortunately only "tied" to momentary buttons - that is, they only listen to 127s of CC or to note ons....

127 - button alternates state
0 - nothing happens
127 - alternates state
0 - nothing happens
and so on and so on.....

thus when you map "switches" to them....there is erratic behavior and poor bi-directional ffedback.
I know this is true for the solo-monitor cue buttons and it has always buffled me why Ableton chose to hard-code these buttons in such a way - long story short, you CANNOT have "switches" to work with the solo-buttons and have a reliable bi-directional feedback and I think the arm buttons work this way too.

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

so, what is the solution then?
being able to switch between tracks, that use the same controls.

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

To use "pads" instead of switches, but then you won't have any sort of "indication" on the iPad about what track is actually armed.

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

maybe I could run things slightly differently, by having both drum rack tracks armed, but on different MIDI channels, then change the channel number to select.

not sure if it would be practical for live play though.


just trying to think of how to get this all to work.

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

Well truth is, if you are using an external step sequencer, you dont need arming at all.....I have a couple of VSTs set up with the monitor selector of Live to "In" (so when they are triggered, their output is indeed audible)....but, as you said, I have set the midi input on different midi channels.

Then it is just a matter of changing the step sequencer midi channel in order to select which VST Im currently triggering. I used to do this with "keys" that send note ons-offs in a seperate page in my Lemur-gig template, and I also had some loopers after the VST synths to record on the fly my playing....I had thought this was best for another reason too: after playing some 1-2 or 4 bars, i could record on the looper, then switch the patch of the VST and continue building on it without having to resort in a multitude of adding plug ins.

Couple of months ago also got an Arturia beatstep, which again, can be set to change the midi channel the sequnece is transmitted with a simple push of a button....

So, yeah....no arming invloved in my set up indeed.

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

I get that I can just change the MIDI channel. the Nord Beat app allows this, and was one of my ideas.
which should work, but requires it to be stopped, as to avoid the wrong kit to be played whilst changing channel.
could some radio buttons be set to specify a specific transpose, with all kits in the same drum rack with transpose used to select the kit?
then I could change the kit on the one beat.

I have a MIDI keyboard that I use, which has an awkward method of changing the channel on.

wondering if there is a way of selecting which synth is used, instead of the channel.

maybe set it to play all synths (all tracks armed on the same channel), but control the volumes of each to mix them, and I could map the on/off button of each.

could the radio buttons be used to select between the synths that are switched on?

Subject: Re: radio buttons to send note off when not the active butto

I've got radio buttons working with the track activator for each track, using control change.
it works as I need, however the synths are all set on the same channel, so as to receive the midi from my keyboard.

I need to run separate channels, so that I can assign program change to select patches on each of the synths independent of each other.

I am thinking Bome's Midi Translator could duplicate the midi from my keyboard to all required channels.

unless there is a neater solution? (it's too awkward to change the midi channel on my midi keyboard, whilst live)