TX-802 editor (version 1.0 released)

First version is now in the Lemur library for general download.

Even if you don't own a Yamaha synth, I'd appreciate feedback on the various UI elements I implemented. They work for me, but I always welcome comments on better/cleaner ways to do something.

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bump for the next version. any/all feedback appreciated, especially with some of my UI choices. You don't need a TX-802 to play around w. the template.

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Hello I like so far what you did. How do you actually connecting your keyboard? I'm using iRig and midi in/out are going straight to the TX802. How do you save your patches?
thanks,
-D

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I am using an Apple Camera connector cable to go from the Lightning connector to an Emu xmidi 1x1 USB->MIDI cable directly to the TX-802 for testing. In the home studio setup, I am connecting to a merge box that merges MIDI from the MIDI patchbay and from the iPad.

Voice and Performance listing, saving, and undo are next on the list after I finish some issues with the Performance edit section. The TX-802 manual says there's 8 edit buffers, but getting to them via MIDI has been an interesting puzzle.

Having a limitation of only 256 bytes of sysex send or receive limits what can be done. Ideally, I would grab the entire internal bank and simply list the names for selecting, but that's too much data. Patch save will be a simple add, but there's always the user (and maybe me) that will want the option to save it somewhere else, so that means additional coding to restore what was there and save the edit buffer off to a new location. None of it is hard, but trying to find time to do the coding and testing is always a challenge.

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Oh I didn't know that Midi merge boxes exists I gotta get one. I was looking for some cheap librarian (Motu Unisyn, Emagic Sounddiver) but nothing works on recent systems, only MidiQuest which cost more than the TX-802 today. So i was pretty happy to find your solution.

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dank0 wrote:Oh I didn't know that Midi merge boxes exists I gotta get one. I was looking for some cheap librarian (Motu Unisyn, Emagic Sounddiver) but nothing works on recent systems, only MidiQuest which cost more than the TX-802 today. So i was pretty happy to find your solution.

I use a MIDI Solutions merge box. Unfortunately, new they cost about $70 US. Still, it's very useful if you need it.

I have almost finished the core Performance editing and I did add a Voice Save button and cleaned up some of the displays. Hopefully, if I have time, I should be able to post the update next week. I still need to work on a way to display and select all voices and performances. Once the core is working, I'll switch over to make it work with my TX-816, which should also mean that it will work with both the DX-7 and DX-7 II

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Nice, I can't wait to try it I have a one question for you. I got the TX-802 couple weeks ago. I really like the FM synthesis, but the device I have bugs me little bit with 2 things. The headphone output is very noisy and the Analog outputs are low volume. Do you have same issues with your instrument? Do you know if there is some solution to fix it (recap the capacitors, do something with power supply etc.) ? or this is standard issue with FM synths?

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Does this work for the DX100 aswell?!
Please say it does!!!

!!!

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LNZ wrote:Does this work for the DX100 aswell?!
Please say it does!!!

!!!

I don't have a DX-100. I'll check the MIDI specs for it and see if it can be adapted.

The performance mode of the TX-802 is a royal PITA. The lemur change to 5.0.1 also set me back. In the meantime, I'm working on the TX-816 version. Given all the slight variations between the DX/TX boxes, some day I'll combine all of them to produce a single editor that can talk to them all.

in the meantime, stay tuned.

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Im going to check this thread every day until a DX-100 version is released from you

I have a stable version of the editor now in the Lemur library, available for download.
Even if you don't own a TX-802, I'd appreciate feedback on the UI, documentation, and general approach to using the Lemur objects in the way I did.

I had a vision for a particular way I wanted the UI to work and the Lemur environment allowed me to (eventually) sculpt things to do it the way I wanted instead of simply throwing up a screen or two full of sliders and buttons. I hope this makes editing Yamaha's FM synthesis more enjoyable and understandable for folks.

D'you know what lad? I wish I had a Yamaha PD*-synth just to chikky-chikky czech that shit out! However . . . I don't. (FM 7 /8 luvva tho' so . . .)

[[ caveat:: used to have some sort of horrible, crappy pseudo / consumer shite yamaha 'fm' synth . . . yeah. could morph that fucker from raindrops to frying bacon. robots. nervous breakdowns. melted crayons loving friends,]]

* Wanna fight?

**

** no srsly.

Thanks oldgearguy for this, so first and quick feedback, setup is easy, READme-first is quite understable, I guess the READme-later is planned for...later (or does it exist somewhere?), concerning the UI I found very nice the fact of having directly the algorythm vizualisation, that helps a lot the understanding, what I'd love to have is a visual of every adsr (or maybe including the card schem) cos i found parameters are a bit unusal on the tx, but it's probably also because i'm not used to it and starting to use it with your editor.
So very nice to have this, only main cons for now is that it can't control my korg WSAD

edfone wrote:Thanks oldgearguy for this, so first and quick feedback, setup is easy, READme-first is quite understable, I guess the READme-later is planned for...later (or does it exist somewhere?), concerning the UI I found very nice the fact of having directly the algorythm vizualisation, that helps a lot the understanding, what I'd love to have is a visual of every adsr (or maybe including the card schem) cos i found parameters are a bit unusal on the tx, but it's probably also because i'm not used to it and starting to use it with your editor.
So very nice to have this, only main cons for now is that it can't control my korg WSAD

The Liine download site only allows 1 document to be attached. The Advanced document is on my web site: http://www.oldgearguy.com/TX802/default.html

I didn't want to create "fake" ADSR envelopes even though that's what most people know. If you're working with FM and the Yamaha DX gear, you really should learn how to control those envelopes. My display shows the level and rate for each stage and that's kind of how you should think of it.

Hi everybody, I'm new here !
I just got the TX-802 editor and I have a few midi routing questions.

My ipad goes through my macbookpro and so my keyboard. I virtually merge both midi signals with midi pipe and through out my midi out sound cart to my tx 802 so basically this is the midi routing from my keyboard and ipad :

keyboard and ipad -->computer--->soundcard-->tx802

I manage to get sound with both ipad and keyboard and change the tx802 settings from my ipad BUT when I change of performance on my tx802 I don't have the change of voices from my ipad. By the way when I tap on "Get current data" it says there's no midi connection to the midi tx-802 (even if I can modify the tx802 settings from my ipad)

So I tried to send the midiout signal from the tx802 to my ipad but I have no feedback at all from the tx802.
No settings are specified in the readme about the midisignal in this way, is the tx-802 editor can do this ?
How can the editor knows if there's no connection to the tx-802 if it's not supposed to have feedback ?


Thanks,