Push for lemur

@Gab23

I've used both methods and once you've found the files and done the edits, both work well. However, I've found that ClyphX allows some 'user mode' functions to work correctly with other devices (e.g. see my earlier post in this topic about a Max sequencer) so I've decided to stick with that. ClyphX also adds some interesting scripting functions to Live too - whether they'll be useful to me I don't know as I haven't got anywhere near bored with Shove yet!

kpmc wrote:@Gab23

I've used both methods and once you've found the files and done the edits, both work well. However, I've found that ClyphX allows some 'user mode' functions to work correctly with other devices (e.g. see my earlier post in this topic about a Max sequencer) so I've decided to stick with that. ClyphX also adds some interesting scripting functions to Live too - whether they'll be useful to me I don't know as I haven't got anywhere near bored with Shove yet!

Ok, thanks.
a tutorial with CyphX would be nice too.
Could somebody send me the modified script? i don't know how to modify it. i'm trying with Xcode and Textwrangler without success

Just use TextEdit (Mac) or Notepad (Win) to open UserSettings.txt which is in the ClyphX folder.

Find the line -

#>>>>>>>>DELETE THIS ENTIRE LINE AND START YOUR LIST HERE<<<<<<<<#

and replace it with -

PUSH_EMULATION = ON

Save it and then copy the entire ClyphX folder into Live's "MIDI Remote Scripts" folder.

It's as simple as that!

kpmc wrote:Just use TextEdit (Mac) or Notepad (Win) to open UserSettings.txt which is in the ClyphX folder.

Find the line -

#>>>>>>>>DELETE THIS ENTIRE LINE AND START YOUR LIST HERE<<<<<<<<#

and replace it with -

PUSH_EMULATION = ON

Save it and then copy the entire ClyphX folder into Live's "MIDI Remote Scripts" folder.

It's as simple as that!

Thanks a lot!!! Yes, it was really easy. but it doesn't work perfectly. i think that i did not set it correctly.
how to set the midi settings in Ableton please?
Thanks again.

Attached is screen capture of my MIDI settings (Mac OS X)

Screen Shot 2013-10-14 at 23.38.27.png

been putting a lot of time in on this...

it works near flawlessly. the only issues I am having are that the Solo and Mute buttons do not seem to work, and I'm not sure what the PC- and PC+ buttons next to the arrows do? nudge?

haven't tried Shove, but I'm pretty sure PC means Program Change.

oh shit..super sexy bonus...if you have an APC40 hooked up alongside the lemur push...they work together and 'focus' on the same element. If I move the blue hand with the APC40 the lemur updates, if I move shit with the lemur the APC40 updates.

So...my lemur push now has the same 8 knobs as the real push

willsanquil wrote:been putting a lot of time in on this...

it works near flawlessly. the only issues I am having are that the Solo and Mute buttons do not seem to work, and I'm not sure what the PC- and PC+ buttons next to the arrows do? nudge?

Solo and Mute don't work if either Device or Browse are active (red), otherwise they function as expected. I don't know if this is the same behaviour you would get on a real Push.

hm. I indeed can get my solo/mute to toggle on and off when I'm not in device/browser, but they still don't work. I'm in a drum rack attempting to solo/mute a single element and it doesn't seem to work.

do yours not only toggle on and off but actually mute/solo things?

kpmc wrote:Attached is screen capture of my MIDI settings (Mac OS X)

Screen Shot 2013-10-14 at 23.38.27.png

Thanks a lot, it works perfectly!!!

All buttons and encoders including Mute and solo will works as per the hardware and version of live .

willsanquil wrote:hm. I indeed can get my solo/mute to toggle on and off when I'm not in device/browser, but they still don't work. I'm in a drum rack attempting to solo/mute a single element and it doesn't seem to work.

do yours not only toggle on and off but actually mute/solo things?

They actually mute/solo like they should.

wul wrote:All buttons and encoders including Mute and solo will works as per the hardware and version of live .

Even tapping the encoders clears automation - outstanding!

hm. interesting that mine don't work yet most everything else does. I wonder if this is because I don't have clyphx selected as a control surface currently?

Can you guys shift to Clip workflow instead of Scene workflow by holding User down and moving the appropriate encoder?

willsanquil wrote:hm. interesting that mine don't work yet most everything else does. I wonder if this is because I don't have clyphx selected as a control surface currently?

Can you guys shift to Clip workflow instead of Scene workflow by holding User down and moving the appropriate encoder?

That could be it, you need ClyphX selected as a control surface but it should not have any input or output.

No clip workflow. Only Pad Threshold and Velocity Curve encoders have any effect and of course they're not really applicable to Lemur/SHOVE.

Yup - that was it. fixed it. Still can't change from Scene Workflow to Clip Workflow though. Not a big deal. Haven't been able to find anything else that Josh Spoon can do in his 30 days of Push series that I can't on this thing.

Soooo sweet.

@wul - Would it be possible to have a zoom feature (like you have done for the pads) for the display and encoders? Easy to do or a major pain in the backside?

Still can't change from Scene Workflow to Clip Workflow though

Same here. i would like to try this clip workflow.

Zoom the display and encoders isn't that hard .
I was thinking of squeezing in the double and duplicate buttons on the zoom window and making the slider smaller.

Can someone explain what the clip/scene workflow does on the hardware, I thought all the user settings were directed towards the hardware . I was going to not include that user button .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pWtlKsEQ14&list=PLliH3RZ5hf8RbOMRkFovLVQ8v2ZSSgEYR

overview of clip workflow