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Push for lemur
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this would be awsome. Great work. cant wait.
This would be wonderful addition to liine lemur.
Looking forward to playing with it.
Looking forward to playing with it.
Oh my....
He's done it again!!!
He's done it again!!!
Wow, looks awesome! Hope you decide to share this one as well, love the L'Pad!! 
Incredible! L'Pad is brilliant, but this looks even better. What an amazing platform Lemur is when talented people do their 'magic'.
Does beg the question, if one clever guy can come up with stuff like this in a matter of days/weeks what's holding up LC2 that (I'm guessing) has a team of clever folk working on it?
I do hope you share this template - it would certainly be a 'Premium Template'!
Does beg the question, if one clever guy can come up with stuff like this in a matter of days/weeks what's holding up LC2 that (I'm guessing) has a team of clever folk working on it?
I do hope you share this template - it would certainly be a 'Premium Template'!
I have some major concerns about ableton's response if i share this template. which is a shame as it works exactly as the hardware. although the displays not quite 100% due to size restrictions and lemur. all i can say is its easy to develop all the info is available online see links here http://forum.liine.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3089
its so efficient i have managed to squeeze the l'pad on, as well as 2 zoomed in interfaces ( larger 64pad only/performance version + a 16pads with velocity and aftertouch version), i guess theres nothing more that can be done. its the dogs bollox in live controllers
and ive only got 20 days of the sodding demo left.......ah well
oh by the way liine :-could do with the minimum sizing of the multiball object reducing , when using to generate velocity and aftertouch , thats why i could only do 16 pads with velocity and AT
its so efficient i have managed to squeeze the l'pad on, as well as 2 zoomed in interfaces ( larger 64pad only/performance version + a 16pads with velocity and aftertouch version), i guess theres nothing more that can be done. its the dogs bollox in live controllers
and ive only got 20 days of the sodding demo left.......ah well
oh by the way liine :-could do with the minimum sizing of the multiball object reducing , when using to generate velocity and aftertouch , thats why i could only do 16 pads with velocity and AT
Forgive my ignorance, why would Ableton have a problem with your Push like template? Surely no different to the L'Pad template or any of the other templates here that emulate hardware devices.
I think, at the pages where the new midi remote scripts are shared, it is clearly noted that sharing those scripts, is in fact not illegal.
Consequently, as many people "bypass" legal problems, it would be sufficient to just not mention anywhere "Push" in your project, and use the same scripts and just release it. Kind of a moot point though, isnt it? Why be hypocritical after all...it is what it is.
And frankly, even though, functionally, a Lemur emulation may seem like its "stealing" from Push glory, I really don't think that anyone who would be set to buy Push would be satisfied with a touch screen equivalent. Real hardware, real knobs and real buttons are a thing of their own - the functions may be duplicated on a touch screen but the feel is miles away so I dont think we have, lets put it this way, competing products.
Whatever the case though, the final decision burdens the creator, Wul, and not us!
Consequently, as many people "bypass" legal problems, it would be sufficient to just not mention anywhere "Push" in your project, and use the same scripts and just release it. Kind of a moot point though, isnt it? Why be hypocritical after all...it is what it is.
And frankly, even though, functionally, a Lemur emulation may seem like its "stealing" from Push glory, I really don't think that anyone who would be set to buy Push would be satisfied with a touch screen equivalent. Real hardware, real knobs and real buttons are a thing of their own - the functions may be duplicated on a touch screen but the feel is miles away so I dont think we have, lets put it this way, competing products.
Whatever the case though, the final decision burdens the creator, Wul, and not us!
It's the remote script mod that's required that is the problem. I have sought advice . All of which was non committal . There is a disclaimer within the scripts . Which reserves the right to deny non commercial usage . If I was them in this case I would deny usage
Quite frankly I don't want the hassle
L'Pad didn't need any modified scripts .
Quite frankly I don't want the hassle
L'Pad didn't need any modified scripts .
Yeah I wouldn't worry one as long as you not charging any money your ok. Look at native kontrol he gives away lpc ditto to any how buys his other product. But doesn't advertise as such. Also hardware is still hardware. As much as I personally have debated weather I need push. I may have to buy for touch sensitivity and display. I own maschine and use inside of ableton.
Can't wait for you to release.
Can't wait for you to release.
Will you be posting this or share privately somehow ?
I dreamed of it, and you did it ! 
I tried to make one but I'm not good enough for "scripting" complex things like that... but I knew it was possible.
I just managed to modify your L'Pad template to be compatible with LPC-Ditto. If you're interested, I can send it to you.
Please, please... share yours !
Congrats for your job !
I tried to make one but I'm not good enough for "scripting" complex things like that... but I knew it was possible.
I just managed to modify your L'Pad template to be compatible with LPC-Ditto. If you're interested, I can send it to you.
Please, please... share yours !
Congrats for your job !
WOW!! Looks amazing! I just picked up Lemur.app, finally!, and was checking out the forums. Would love that preset!
hi !
this project looks really amazing !
we need some news about it : is it planned to be release or would you keep it private ?
all the best
this project looks really amazing !
we need some news about it : is it planned to be release or would you keep it private ?
all the best
Please share with the comuniti¡¡¡¡¡ 
Awesome.
Just out of curiosity: Does it use the Push Remote scripts? So did you actually "just" code the controllers behaviour? How does the communication between scripts and controller work, it can't be OSC ... or can it?
I believe this is no comparison to the actual hardware, but still an awesome template! Touchscreens just don't cut it in terms of haptics. Also, there is no pressure sensitivity.
I'd love to do something like that sometime because I think I'd learn a lot.
Just out of curiosity: Does it use the Push Remote scripts? So did you actually "just" code the controllers behaviour? How does the communication between scripts and controller work, it can't be OSC ... or can it?
I believe this is no comparison to the actual hardware, but still an awesome template! Touchscreens just don't cut it in terms of haptics. Also, there is no pressure sensitivity.
I'd love to do something like that sometime because I think I'd learn a lot.
hi
i think many people here wanna have some news about this project :
is it planned to be released or not ?
it could be really really a wonderfull add on to lemur ...
all the best
i think many people here wanna have some news about this project :
is it planned to be released or not ?
it could be really really a wonderfull add on to lemur ...
all the best
Wul
Are you not going to release this gem? Send it to me I will release it I ain't scared of ableton LOL just kidding but seriously can we get in on this?
Are you not going to release this gem? Send it to me I will release it I ain't scared of ableton LOL just kidding but seriously can we get in on this?
I know you're concerned about Ableton's response and that I'm new here but I would deeply love to try this out.
I'm interested in Push but a bit weary about investing such money for another Live controller - would you consider 'lending' me this template so I can demo if Push really works, for me.
Or if anyone can suggest a usable means of acheiving what the extra functions of Push are...
Adding new tracks, device browser, copy/duplicate, etc.
I can pretty much imagine the step-seq, scales, clip launch gubbins - I use Stray's LPC on my LaunchPad so I'm happy to gamble that experience of Push.
I'm interested in Push but a bit weary about investing such money for another Live controller - would you consider 'lending' me this template so I can demo if Push really works, for me.
Or if anyone can suggest a usable means of acheiving what the extra functions of Push are...
Adding new tracks, device browser, copy/duplicate, etc.
I can pretty much imagine the step-seq, scales, clip launch gubbins - I use Stray's LPC on my LaunchPad so I'm happy to gamble that experience of Push.