Version 3.2 on iPad2 - text is really bad, almost unusable

I am very disappointed with version 3.2.

I am using an iPad2, and the look of Lemur's fonts and knobs on the iPad2 is unacceptable. Please fix this so templates run on an iPad2 will look as good as they did when running Lemur 3.1.

I do not understand why this would be released with such a major problem. Is there any way to uninstall 3.2 and go back to 3.1 on my iPad?

Subject: Re: Version 3.2 on iPad2 - text is really bad, almost unusab

Hi,

We had to redo the font system to support Retina. It does look different than the legacy Lemur and previous versions, but it should look sharp. Have you tried different font sizes? Please drop a line at support (at) liine (dot) net

Cheers,
Nick

Subject: Re: Version 3.2 on iPad2 - text is really bad, almost unusab

readability is more important than sharpness. A little smoothing or blurring can even enhance readability. On non-retina iPads the readability is strongly reduced if the text size is not over 16pt. For example the "2" where you can't see the diagonal line, only the top bow and the bottom line. Or the "K". The word CLICK appears now as CLICI. It's disturbing. And indeed the knob objects look bad too.

I guess it won't be possible to rollback to 3.1, but I wish I didn't update to 3.2. I don't like to see my beautiful templates look bad suddenly, and less usable because text and numbers are not as readable as before. I will need to correct texts and value monitors in all of my templates. Not very amused by this idea.

I wouldn't mind if a template looks a bit strange in the editor, but on the iPad display, it is a bit problematic, I mean seriously problematic. What can we do now? Make two Lemur versions, one for retina and one for without retina? That's not good. Anyway, I would like to offer my help as beta-tester (I have two iPads version 2) so that such problems can be avoided in future.

Subject: Re: Version 3.2 on iPad2 - text is really bad, almost unusab

Nick, thanks for the reply.

Here is an example of what 3.2 did to my huge template, on an iPad2.

Lemur 3.1, two days ago:
http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Vu4F4sb22w8/T99zXsJrdBI/AAAAAAAAACM/o6Dp0wJBprc/s0/phaser_flanger.jpg?gl=US

Lemur 3.2:
http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-RDHFnbGYjWs/T-KR8g_v7-I/AAAAAAAAACc/vrZTujnJCFk/s0/IMG_0088.PNG?gl=US

Subject: Re: Version 3.2 on iPad2 - text is really bad, almost unusab

Agree with Phil,

Please guys, is there not any fix for iPad1/2 users?

I mean, is great to have retina support for iPad 3 users, but would be also great compability with previous ipad models.

It would have a HUGE amount of time for people share many templates to update them, I simply have not time for that job, and don't like the idea changing font sizes either.

if you guys could find a solution, would be very appreciated.

Thank you,
AB

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Im use ipad 1 and I wanna relood lemur 3.1 my all template s very bllury i dont like this update!

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It's very poor, on iPad 1 here. Hopefully I can use a the last back-up in iTunes to restore 3.1.

This was bound to happen sooner or later with the advancements in the iPad and the one app store.

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I wass update lemur on my comp. i cant do relood my backup becouse is change 3.2.. @nick_liine pls relood 3.1

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This is not cool, we should not have to change fonts etc. it worked perfect before. PLEASE FIX!

Thanks.


Carmen

Subject: Re: Version 3.2 on iPad2 - text is really bad, almost unusab

Uh-Oh....
Haven't been around awhile and first thing should not be to complain but I've got to agree with all the other unusable text posts. It's great that you fixed the text for Retina but conversely now the text for Pads/Switches which was unchangeable before now has the added disadvantage of being REALLY unreadable!
And of course there is still the zero issue where a value that starts off negative or zero doesn't display, font sizes in Pads/Switches, etc. etc.....

How about fixing what's wrong and not creating new issues. The reason I haven't been on is the amount of work I've been able to get done with my template and now I'm thrown back into AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa............. land.

thx,

joeb

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AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa...............

One of the pages on my template has 1 Pad array and 1 Switch array. They each have 32 Pads/Switches. Rather than make 64 individual text objects I made 8 lines of 8 strings (C-2, C#-2, D-2, etc.) I spent some time putting spaces in between each of the strings so that the text fell where I wanted it over the arrays. Everything still looks correct in the Mac editor but the text on the iPad is all out of alignment and I can't seem to get it back where it needs to be!

This Retina text thing has got to be switchable. I wanted to polish off the app but now it looks like weeks just to get the text back.

NOT GOOD!

joeb

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no reply from Liine since two days, I believe they are working silently for a solution. I just want to repeat that it could be helpful to test new versions with selected users. AB, joebataz, bxsj, Macciza, myself, ... . I've been and still am beta tester for Samplemodeling and 3dconnexion for years, I find errors and bugs quite fast.

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New update makes me a bit scared - I can't imagine making two template versions for iPad 1-2 and Retina. In case of complex templates it is awful lots of work. The previous version didn't look bad on iPad 3 - to me it was OK. Naturally the 3.2 looks better on a retina display but all templates look bad on iPad 1 and 2. I have nearly finished a huge template for Presonus Studio One, but now I have to stop working because I am not certain how the issues will be resolved. Bummer...

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Also the text object offset problem between Retina and legacy version is a very serious issue - hundreds of elements get awfully offset in my templates.

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I'm just leaving the text as it is for now. It's ugleeeee and I cringe every time I look but I have bigger fish to fry.

Thanks for the reply. I'm retired so I have a bunch of time when I'm not building new sequences with my Lemur template which looks to be called LDJ. I am using it in a production mode right now to crank out midi sequences for others. Works like a charm, just doesn't look as good as it used to.....

joeb

Subject: Re: Version 3.2 on iPad2 - text is really bad, almost unusab

I'd like to add that thin, curved lines also look terrible. The knobs now all look like the graphics have been digitally altered or compressed, to the point of losing a great deal of clarity. Maybe it looks great on iPad3, but I shouldn't have to buy a new iPad for text to show up in the right place, be readable, and for things to look at least somewhat decent.

Liine, how can we revert to 3.1?! My Lemur was working just fine, I just want the old version!

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Yes, the knobs look terrible. Even if we have to change the txt in our templates it's unacceptable to have to deal with shit graphics just because we use older generation iPads.

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Yeap all my text has gone bad. Unreadable, unusable and ugly. Big step back for Liine. I will be downloading the jailvroken 3.1 if nothing gets fixed.

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kraftf, do you know where you can get a download of the 3.1 version? i'm intrigued...

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If you made backups from you ipad, you should be able to reload your latest backup via itunes. Before doing this, I highly recommend to read up about ipad backups on the net.
Btw, I do have a backup of my ipad from February. Not sure if I want to reload it, because I would loose all stuff that I've changed since then.
B.