Oberheim Matrix Template

Creating this thread for any questions or suggestions regarding my Oberheim Matrix Template.

HI ,i was actually thinking to build one too for my matrix 6r,
i am very new to the lemur app , so far i'm learning slowly and enjoying the results
i have tried to download your template but i don't know if i'm doing anything wrong
it seems to download just text and not a jzlm file
could you let me know?
btw well done on the effort!
im looking forward to test your template

Hi
I think you will find it is a jzml with an extra .txt in the name.
Simply remove the .txt part and keep the .jzml and it should work

Cheers
MM

Oh i see! Thanks MM
did not realise that!
gonna try it out!

Hi,

first of all, thanks for your template but im having some troubles when downloading it, im trying to download from ipad's safari, and when click on download, it shows me the window saying "the download will start automatically or download manually". since the download never starts i click on download manually and it shows the script code in the download window but it doesnt download anything

i dont know what have i done, but i've been able to download other template before (the tetra one) without problems but now it does the same when trying to download it...

any ideas?

thanks and regards

J

Jjsc,

Just tested in Safari. Looks like you can select "open in Lemur," which works on my end. Personally I use on the Atomicweb browser which allows you to download the file without any issues, but the above method should work in Safari.

Thanks kabletx, dunno what i did but restoring default setting in the ipad it worked, i have tested the template and it works like a charm just a question, it doesnt have parameter feedback on patch change, right? thanks for your work

Regards,

J

Thanks for checking out the template! Definitely let me know if you find any bugs. Are you using a 1000, or a 6 series?

No patch feedback. It SHOULD be possible, given that the Matrix will sysex dump the data and software editors can do it, it's beyond my merger coding knowledge...pretty sure I'd have to start from scratch.

I "solve" the problem by having a default patch that matches the current setting on the template and working from there. Real time manipulation is pretty limited without everything hanging...I just keep telling myself that so that isn't start over! Haha.

hi kabletx, im using a 1000 and at the moment i havent found any bug just a few hangs but its the matrix issue

no problem with the parameter feed, my coding knowledge is zero so..

btw, could you share the default patch with the template settings? it will be big help in creating patches from scratch

Thanks and Regards,

J

I will upload the patch when I get the chance.

You can recreate it fairly quickly simply by altering each selection and then returning it to it's position on load. It should just sound like two raw sawtooths with some velocity response.

Hey, here is that default patch I promised. I just have it saved to slot 0.00 on the Matrix, and I design from there!

Matrix1000Default.syx.zip

Thx mate! im gonna try it right now, thanks again

Regards,

J

Good deal. Let me know how to works for you. Nice to hear that someone else is getting use outta all that work!

Hey! So I just tried out the template in Ableton Live.. and I can't get it to work... I have a sneaking suspicion that it is because Live's sysex handling is nonexistent; the program doesn't handle either sysex or NRPN and so I think the messages are filtered before it reaches the synth.. Its supposed to send out continous sysex whenever you move params around on the first page right? The "Send" thing is only for the modulation matrix right? I couldn't find any "send" messages on the front page so I just presume it should send messages...

Anybody got this to work in Ableton Live?

You're correct about why it doesn't work in Ableton. I use Live as my DAW, but I route all my MIDI through my interface and bypass Ableton entirely. This is done fairly easily with the Lemur Daemon, and you can select the appropriate MIDI target in the template so as not to FUBAR any other routing you have woth other Lemur projects. Just create a new routing in the Daemon that goes straight to your interface. That would be annoying if you wanted automation, but the Matrix responds poorly to real time parameter changes anyway.

Yes, the sends are only for the Matrix.

holy sh*t I didn't know that would work... just tried it... wow, this is awesome thanks man!

i"m not particuarly sure of what i am doing wrong . but can't seem to understand how to get this patch work on my matrix 6r
i have tried by passing the midi from ableton live via lemur editor but it got me nowhere, i know that i'm missing something here
because it seems to work for others
could anybody help me get this right please? or upload a snapshot of their ableton/lemur editor
if you have a similar configuration?
any help would be really great
thanks!

Minosan wrote:i"m not particuarly sure of what i am doing wrong . but can't seem to understand how to get this patch work on my matrix 6r
i have tried by passing the midi from ableton live via lemur editor but it got me nowhere, i know that i'm missing something here
because it seems to work for others
could anybody help me get this right please? or upload a snapshot of their ableton/lemur editor
if you have a similar configuration?
any help would be really great
thanks!

Sorry for the late reply...I just saw your post.

Unfortunately, Ableton filters out all MIDI SYSEX data, which is what the Matrix needs to function. Thus, you CAN'T route the template THROUGH Ableton and get it to work. However, I'm assuming you have an external MIDI interface to which the Matrix is connected. If so, just route the data DIRECTLY through the interface and bypass Ableton altogether. This precludes automation, but honestly the Martix glitches out if you move the controls too quickly anyway.

hi everybody!
First off, massive thx for sharing your template!
But for me this template isn´t working either. I have an Oberheim Matrix 6. I tried to use a Midisport 4x4 interface to control the Matrix 6. Although my midi interface showed out going midi data (flickering output LEDs), the Matrix 6 didn´t receive anything at all. I connected the Matrix 6 directly from my Ipad via an ad hoc network directly to my Midisport 4x4 midi interface. By the way I am using Windows 7 64bit.
Could anybody imagine what is the problem?
The strange thing is, the Matrix is responding to software midi editors. but it is not recognizing midi from the ipad template (nor my Bitstream 3x which has dedicated sysex string presets for the Matrix 1000).
Since it seems to work with Matrix 1000 it rises the question is it a Matrix 6 issue only? (Unfortunately there is no Matrix 1000 around here so i cannot test it with a Matrix 1000).

Do i have to change something in the midi sysex code to get me this matrix 1000 template to work with a matrix 6? Does anybody know what´s different between a Matrix 1000 and a Matrix 6? Basically both synths are pretty much the same I guess.

thx Helldriver

Hey, thanks for trying my template, and I'm sorry it's no working for you. I only have a M1000, so I confess I've not tested the template with the 6. That said, my understanding at the time was that there were no differences between the synths in terms of their MIDI specs, so it SHOULD work.

I confess I'm honestly not certain where one might start the troubleshooting process if you state that the synth will take commands from software editors, but perhaps something is amiss in the Lemur Daemon settings? That would seem to be the outlier...

Also just make certain that nothing is filtering out the SYSEX; I know that's been a problem for folks using Ableton to try and route their MIDI...