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Blofeld template developer [new 1.55 release for 2015]
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Hi guys!
Anyone happen to be working on a Blofeld template?
I made a basic, basic, basic one using control changes for few oscillator and filter controls just as a quick test. it was the second thing i programmed for Lemur after MCU stuff for DAW.
but that was before I've done all the layout and sysex work.
now i want to begin working on a sysex (to Blofeld only for now... 127byte limit on MIDI_ARGS input + 256 overall limit per arrays)
but didn't want to duplicate efforts too much.
I want control of all multi parameters, but that may be out of reach because not all functions are within MIDI spec based upon 1.04 document which according to Waldorf tech support last week was latest document.
For me, making most of the patch changes over Wifi while chillin' on the couch would be a step in the right direction.
So what do other Blofeld owners want to see in their Lemur iPad control app?
-J
Anyone happen to be working on a Blofeld template?
I made a basic, basic, basic one using control changes for few oscillator and filter controls just as a quick test. it was the second thing i programmed for Lemur after MCU stuff for DAW.
but that was before I've done all the layout and sysex work.
now i want to begin working on a sysex (to Blofeld only for now... 127byte limit on MIDI_ARGS input + 256 overall limit per arrays)
but didn't want to duplicate efforts too much.
I want control of all multi parameters, but that may be out of reach because not all functions are within MIDI spec based upon 1.04 document which according to Waldorf tech support last week was latest document.
For me, making most of the patch changes over Wifi while chillin' on the couch would be a step in the right direction.
So what do other Blofeld owners want to see in their Lemur iPad control app?
-J
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?However, I like the idea of controlling my Blofeld with the iPad.
I think editing the Blofeld on the instrument itself works fine.
I like the graphical display of the Blofeld parameters, but I miss an 'overview' of the patch settings.
So I am very curious about what you have in mind for your template.
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?yes i appreciate programming the Blofeld from the front panel, like the knobs and overall good interface!
The LCD is nice and big for an instrument of the price, but it could do well augmented with Lemur.
Tonight I've been comparing what is available via the standard control change messages and what can be accessed via sysex control.
Waldorf as usual had made a generous CC implementation. But access to multi parameters is not included there.
Not bad, but.. I use the multi on the synth.
So it would be useful to be able to access instruments within the multi quickly and with the birds eye overview on features as you said.
I've not been skilled at making the arp work beyond basics so I'll try to add a single page dedicated to detailed arpeggiator control.
Patch browsing/previewing and assignment to a multi 10 feet away or where ever over WiFi!
I began to create a boilerplate template with all the basic control, features and similar layout based directly on my Mopho and Pulse dashboard project templates then began a screen that will focus on the modulation matrix.
This will can scaled up to 16 mutli-instruments so should be interesting to see how much ground that I can cover. max 382 parameters per instrument x 16 (over 50 reserved and not used yet). This might take awhile.
Here's what I plan on focusing on:
-Making every Arpeggio control available.. and hopefully easy to use!
-All basic synth osc/filter/env controls like in my previous dashboard work
-animated Lemur controls that can be mapped to useful synth cc's
-some parameter randomization within selectable ranges
-Lemur based note/percussion generator for multi-channels
I'm obsessed with it already..
If there are ideas and features that you guys can think of please post.. I want to make this a useful creative tool
cheers~
-J
Tom_1970 wrote:I am just beginning to make templates for Lemur, so making a Blofeld template is beyond my knowledge at this moment.
However, I like the idea of controlling my Blofeld with the iPad.
I think editing the Blofeld on the instrument itself works fine.
I like the graphical display of the Blofeld parameters, but I miss an 'overview' of the patch settings.
So I am very curious about what you have in mind for your template.
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?Unfortunatly the LemurMenu object allows 32 entries. The Blofeld modulators Destination has 55 entries so I had to make that controller a fader instead of a menu. For the moment I'm stuck on breakpionts and how to get them working for the envelopes.
Looking forward to your contribution!
Kind regards
BJ
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?I understand about the menu object limitation, I've mostly abandoned that method for the size reason and because the bottom of a container will cut off long lists. So I just use arrays with and a slider to flip through the descriptions, displaying a changed text object. It's ok but sometimes it would be useful to have all the options listed.
I was considering popping up a container with arrays of buttons with names... but haven't worked out how practical and actually useful the method may be.
Breakpoints I am no expert at, they can be very cool and interactive (check out ABreakpoint2 for extremely excellent example) but also are difficult to select onscreen and confusing to program. My best effort so far is to include the basic ADSR breakpoint code that most developers seem to use here, and have a toggle switch that swaps
out that display with 4 sliders, checkout my latest Waldorf Pulse and Mopho Dashboards for that in action. Still a little buggy because the decay will allow sometimes values of greater than 128.
I look forward to checking out your template !
What method of MIDI messages (cc's, sysex?) are you using for the main sections?
cheers~
J
Ocotuser wrote:Hello analog604. I've been working on a Blofeld template for a while. So far I'm done with OSC's, Filters and 16 modulators. As soon as I've finished envelopes, lfo's and modifiers I will upload it. I'm new to Lemur and scripting so it will take a while until I've finished it all.
Unfortunatly the LemurMenu object allows 32 entries. The Blofeld modulators Destination has 55 entries so I had to make that controller a fader instead of a menu. For the moment I'm stuck on breakpionts and how to get them working for the envelopes.
Looking forward to your contribution!
Kind regards
BJ
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?I'm just checking out your uploaded template! Putting it to use actually.. dialed in MIDI channel 6 on Blofeld and it worked.
I can tell that you've put some work into this, and it's already useful.
I like the clear layout that you made, all easy to grab controls split into well labeled sections.
The modulation matrix layout I especially appreciate.. you may have run out of Lemur menu items but i think it works out well.
Oscillator common section was a little confusing likely because I haven't used this synth feature at all..or had and didn't realize it!
before seeing your template I had a few hours to knock together 1 oscillator control set and the mixer for all osc+noise+ringmod and balance. No actual control yet, but the onscreen numbers change and the names change above dials/slider for stuff like shape/mod sources.
-J
Ocotuser wrote:Hello analog604. I've been working on a Blofeld template for a while. So far I'm done with OSC's, Filters and 16 modulators. As soon as I've finished envelopes, lfo's and modifiers I will upload it. I'm new to Lemur and scripting so it will take a while until I've finished it all.
Looking forward to your contribution!
Kind regards
BJ
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?Did I miss something, or was there a Blofeld template up the other day on the community page that isn't there any more? I was going to start one myself, but if there is already one available - in whatever state of completion.... it'd be fantastic.
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?
BJ if it is good with you I'd like to contribute building out the arpeggiator related functions to your template.
Is that still ok?
thanks!
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?Nothing is changed but the small text boxes with "Waldorf Blofeld" in top left corner and "S-bay 2012" in the lower right corner.
Hopefully I will launch an update this weekend with envelopes and lfo's.
@analog604: Feel free to build the ARP. I appreciate your offer! Thanks for you comments on the template. I agree that the OSC Common section is a bit confusing. I will take a look into that a.s.a.p.
Once again - sorry that I removed the template a couple of days.
Happy lemuring everyone!
Cheers
BJ
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?I'm almost done with the envelopes. I will continue with the lfo's and some oscillator stuff like ring modulator, noise etc.
Is there a way to co-operate i.e. upload sketches, ideas instead of uploading non-ready templates to the user library?
I'm looking forward to your contribution analog604
Back to work!
Cheers
BJ
Subject: Re: Waldorf Blofeld? anybody working on template?Thanks for posting the template back up and the updates!
very cool!I began planning the Arp section today and worked on a possible layout for it. It's a complex area of the patch because many parameters (Arp Pattern Step/Glide/Accent and Arp Timing/length) are bitmapped to one byte in each of the 16 steps.
I know how to get this done because I'm very familiar with bit level template programming for Lemur.
After this, I'll make the patch effects section if no one else picks it up.
First things first though..
We can post changes to the template in this thread, agree upon the changes and BJ can do the honors for uploading to the user library.
cheers!
J
Ocotuser wrote:Hello all. I was thinking of how nice and progressive it is with people sharing ideas and constructive critcism. Maybe this thread could be a "Blofeld-template-developer"-thread? What do you say analog604?
I'm almost done with the envelopes. I will continue with the lfo's and some oscillator stuff like ring modulator, noise etc.
Is there a way to co-operate i.e. upload sketches, ideas instead of uploading non-ready templates to the user library?
I'm looking forward to your contribution analog604
Back to work!
Cheers
BJ
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developer[edit: developed screenshots later in thread]
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developerGood job Bj, you've been making fast progress on the sections!
I haven't had too much time to focus on this with work stuff going on this week
but yesterday I worked a little more on layout, and got some of the bits merging and decoded from the Lemur edit buffer,
added description for current state in Arp step.
Today adapted my Mopho sysex sound parameter change function for Blofeld, tied in the knobs to that.. (but haven't plugged in iPad to Blofeld to test).
and now I'm too tired to look at the computer.. so will work on it this weekend to hopefully merge with BJ's template.
[edit: developed screenshots later..]
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developerI've fixed broken sysex in the "Osc Common"-section and also started to re-construct the two filters. Some parameters are still missing in the filters and I want to have them complete.
/BJ
Hi. An updated template with the LFO's is now uploaded. I've been very busy with the template. I made some changes to the Osc Common (thanks analog604!)and added Ring and Noise.
I actually have a template ready with all modifiers as well. Unfortunatly I've run into a problem with the editors "Lemur connection" when dealing with five interfaces and a bunch of tabs. I'm awaiting answer from the Liine support on this matter. If anyone are interested in this "beta" template let me know and I will upload it here (if that's possible?). I don't want to upload it in the library until the problem is solved.
Cheers and have a nice weekend!
BJ
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developerThe ARP looks great! Looking forward to try it!
I had a day off from work and have spend all day in my little studio. This Blo-project is very inspiring
Have a nice weekend
BJ
analog604 wrote:hi guys
Good job Bj, you've been making fast progress on the sections!
I haven't had too much time to focus on this with work stuff going on this week
but yesterday I worked a little more on layout, and got some of the bits merging and decoded from the Lemur edit buffer,
added description for current state in Arp step.
Today adapted my Mopho sysex sound parameter change function for Blofeld, tied in the knobs to that.. (but haven't plugged in iPad to Blofeld to test).
and now I'm too tired to look at the computer.. so will work on it this weekend to hopefully merge with BJ's template.
[img]http://d-spacestudios.com/lemurDev/blofeld/blofeld-arp-section-8mar12.png[/img]
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developerHey BJ, thanks for the encouragement.
I've got version 1 of the arpeggio section complete! 8 hours of additional work and here it is.
[edit: updated to v1b found bug in inc+dec button under two dials. sorry.. corrected!]
I put it into BJ's Blofeld Template version 1.51. It is a complete interface page, I named the interface "Z_ .. " so it would show up as the last page but put it where you like.
This is very fun to set into action while changing patches on Blofeld with BJ's Lemur template!
We're creating a great sound development tool here!BJ if this is good you can release it as a new version...
[edit: BJ posted this into the revised template in user library.]
-J
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developerJ, thanks for the ARP. Great job!! I like the design/layout. Very nice and cool with your script for text/values changes and with the + and - function. I spent some hours for testing and browsing your code. I've learned a lot today.
I have also, as of today, re-constructed the filters and fixed some minor cosmetic stuff.
Thanks!
BJ
analog604 wrote:Hi guys!
Hey BJ, thanks for the encouragement.
I've got version 1 of the arpeggio section complete! 8 hours of additional work and here it is.
[edit: updated to v1b found bug in inc+dec button under two dials. sorry.. corrected!]
I put it into BJ's Blofeld Template version 1.51. It is a complete interface page, I named the interface "Z_ .. " so it would show up as the last page but put it where you like.
This is very fun to set into action while changing patches on Blofeld with BJ's Lemur template!
BJ if this is good you can release it as a new version...
-J
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developerSo what do we have left to program?
The FX section? I can set up a screen with the text/value changes later this week..
cheers~
J
Ocotuser wrote:Hello all.
J, thanks for the ARP. Great job!! I like the design/layout. Very nice and cool with your script for text/values changes and with the + and - function. I spent some hours for testing and browsing your code. I've learned a lot today.
I have also, as of today, re-constructed the filters and fixed some minor cosmetic stuff.
Thanks!
BJ
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developerCheers
BJ
analog604 wrote:Thanks very much for kind words and testing!
So what do we have left to program?
The FX section? I can set up a screen with the text/value changes later this week..
cheers~
J
Ocotuser wrote:Hello all.
J, thanks for the ARP. Great job!! I like the design/layout. Very nice and cool with your script for text/values changes and with the + and - function. I spent some hours for testing and browsing your code. I've learned a lot today.
I have also, as of today, re-constructed the filters and fixed some minor cosmetic stuff.
Thanks!
BJ
Subject: Re: Blofeld template developerCheers
BJ
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