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Template for DSI Mopho Synths (v2.5) for Lemur v5 released

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brianc

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v1.3
Ha, I hated my Mopho! But with a good interface like this, I think that could have been completely different.

Let me know if you end up using the vectors/arrays/whatever and/or if you need a tester for that arpeggiator. Sounds awesome!

analog604

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v1.3
heh ok fair enough!

I'll send over the info on the arp when it is less of an abandoned wreck.
brianc wrote:Ha, I hated my Mopho! But with a good interface like this, I think that could have been completely different.

Let me know if you end up using the vectors/arrays/whatever and/or if you need a tester for that arpeggiator. Sounds awesome!

slamgauge

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v1.3
I'm a bit late to the party but I just loaded and tried out v1.3 and I really dig it. Quite impressive that you managed to make such a slick setup, I just can't wrap my head around scripting with NRPN. I can't wait to try out the new sequencer section in v2. Thanks for the great template.

analog604

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0
I wanted to get this out before the end of the year..

so here it is.. 10 months since the last update.. version 2.0 ! :D
http://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/189/

Updates in version 2.0
1) Control zoom feature for more detailed sound design and/or performance.
2) Additional in-Mopho sequencer controls including 'quick build' buttons to fill sequences instantly with squares, triangle, envelope, random and more.
3) Updated miniKeys and NoteGen module (version 1.3).
4) Support for Mopho X4 features including extra banks, feedback and unisolo controls.
5) Interface and layout updates.
6) Synthesizer auto-detect and adaptive interface. 8-)
7) Rewritten and optimized code with bug fixes. :geek:

Checkout the detailed screenshot index here
http://d-spacestudios.com/lemurDev/mophoDashboardLite

feature removed:
Multiball automated parameter assignment. I have a much more full features parameter assignment interface working, but it causes instability in the current Lemur version due an App bug. So I'm waiting for this to be resolved before releasing.

This template was saved in Lemur Editor 4.01, so best results may be to use it with Lemur 4.. but check it out and see how it goes.
Please report any weirdness here in this thread.

Enjoy and Happy New Year! :D
Jay

See releaseNotes.txt in archive for more information.

vojd

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
Really inspirational template , it really opens up mopho and its capabilities :) I have a basic question though , in the release notes there is :" as of Lemur version 4.01 we still cannot receive enough patch information from Mopho to
update all Dashboard controls to show current and existing Mopho programs exactly " .. does that mean that right now any parameter will change if you change the patch on mopho? Because nothing is changing here , I was just wandering if I am getting something wrong here..otherwise it works great bi-directionally.
But it will truly shine when you can receive the current mopho state..can't wait for that :)

analog604

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
Hi vojd, Welcome to the forum and thanks for the feedback! :) I'm also looking forward to fully implement the Mopho (and other synth) patch decoding. This is why I labeled the template a 'Lite' version.

If you change the patch on the Mopho, the template won't show the settings of that patch. It's because we're not able to decode a MIDI message greater than 256 bytes in size.. a Mopho preset buffer is just a little too big for the Mopho to decode fully. Once we have this capability in Lemur then I'll release a new version. :)
-J

Sans Nom

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
Thanks,

I've tested your template and it works as you said. The problem I guess with the Tetra template is that the author doesn't own a Tetra anymore, and if preset read is finally supported by Lemur, it probably won't be implemented. Plus your template has some additionnal features. I have no idea of the amount of work involved, do you think that it could be possible to add Tetra support...?

Anyway, do you think that this sysex dump message problem will be solved by Liine? Did they say anything about it?

Thanks again for all your work

analog604

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
Hi!
This template could be adapted to work for all voices of Tetra/Prophet 08, it would be messy without getting full feedback from the synths though.
I did talk about doing a unified DSI control template on the DSI forums, it's something I might take on after the sysex problem is resolved. Still waiting on a MIDI spec for Tempest too.. :)

sculptair

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
I'm looking for an interface to control my Mopho desktop, and it looks like I found it! This looks fantastic! Congratulations!

Would the Mopho dashboard function on an iPhone 5 (I don't own an iPad), or would even the zoom feature render the controllers too small?

Has liine ever updated lemur to allow for the parameters current state of a patch to be reflected in your Mopho dashboard?

Given the previous question, did I miss it or are there no controllers for changing Mopho presets or banks ?

Thanks again!

analog604

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
Hi sculptair!

Thanks for the comments. I think it should work fine on any iOS device, you'll only need to use the scrollbars to get around.
Used iPads are cheap these days. :)
I am not certain if there had been an update to allow greater than 256 bytes for a sysex message, although I did not notice that in the last update notes.
I'll update the template and others when we can do this. ;)

There are controls for changing presets and banks.. on the first interface page and the zoom of it for finer grain control (+/- buttons) than what knobs provide.

Enjoy,
Jay

sculptair

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
Now that I got this working on an iPad I must say that it is truly awesome! Thank you!

There are a couple of things I don't understand.
1. Touching the AuxEnv view controller has no effect.
2. Touching the VCA view controller changes it's label to ModMat (what's that?) but nothing else changes.
2. Touching Quick Osc view controller has no effect. Touching it a second time changes the VCA label to ModMat. Touching Quick Osc 2 more times changes the ModMat label back to VCA. Nothing else changes.
3. Touching the "close" down arrow on the VCA envelope group (or the Controller Assignments group) toggles the VCA/ModMat view label. Nothing else changes.

Wish List/suggestions
1. If there is not enough room to add the 4th LFO in it's normal group, can the 4th be added with a More down arrow as you did for the sequencers group, and/or can sliders be added to it's zoom view?
2. Can the 4 modulators be added? Is that what ModMat means?
3. Liine adding support for messages larger that 256 bytes.

sculptair

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
After becoming a bit more familiar with this incredible template, I have some more suggestions:

1. Move the sequencer values to above each slider so that it is visible while a finger is moving it.
2. Allow the user to select the midi channel that parameter changes are broadcast on. Currently parameter changes are only broadcast midi channel 1.

Again, thanks!

analog604

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
Hi Sculptair,

Great to hear that you are enjoying the template and thanks for the input! :)
1) the sequencer values are displayed to the right and update for the one that you touch.
I had thought about adding the value to above each multislider, but doing so would likely slow the template down too much.
2) Go into Help/Setup, there you should be able to select any midi channel.

I need to look into the other stuff you had mentioned in a previous post, thanks again.
-Jay

analog604

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synth v2.0 out now!
The Lemur 5.0 breaks the zoom control function. No big deal! :D I'll rewrite the code and get a update out.

Also, found a couple of problems that Sculpair mentioned, so those corrections will be included too.

Jay

analog604

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Subject: Re: Template for DSI Mopho Synths (v2.5) for Lemur v5 releas
Hello everyone!

I have finished updating the template to run properly on Lemur version 5 only. :D Lots of work to accomplish.

A new entry in the user library has been added:
https://liine.net/en/community/user-library/view/459/

Version 2.0/2.1 continues to have its own entry in the library for those that are running older Lemur versions

Updates in version 2.5
1) Rewrote to work (only) in Lemur version 5 or greater.
2) Interface Bug fixes

To do for Lite:
1) Add 4th LFO
2) Integrate Lemur v5 clocking for Notegen.
3) Integrate v5 sequencer options in Notegen.