Request > Stretcher from iPad to Lemur legacy hardware

First of all many thanks for keeping the Lemur alive!!

I´d love to see a iPad to Lemur legacy hardware screen resolution Stretcher. Any thoughts about this?
It´s really painful not to use new creations such as the new AB Lemur Bundle for the original Lemur hardware.

But I wonder if the "Knob Object's New Parameters Not work on Legacy Lemur" problem will be an issue. If yes, it would
make this request useless, because there are no plans at the moment to update the Legacy Lemur firmware, which is really ..., sad

Peace
Markus

I'm agree whith you !!
+1

+1

want it !

+1

i dunno if you guys have noticed since lemur editor 3.1 came out, but if you click the dropdown menu in the top right to switch between lemur, ipad, and iphone resolutions and click one, it asks you if you want it to automatically stretch them for you. works perfect, zero problem.

Imza wrote:i dunno if you guys have noticed since lemur editor 3.1 came out, but if you click the dropdown menu in the top right to switch between lemur, ipad, and iphone resolutions and click one, it asks you if you want it to automatically stretch them for you. works perfect, zero problem.

Not sure which ones you tried, but most of the ones I tried give me bad results of stretching, like e.g. the LFO Studio.
Some seem to have just slight changes in the layout, which can be O.K. for some users to do the job, but many have a major unacceptable layout issue and are unuseable.

It seems as we both tried completely different templates for this purpose, but it is also true that iPad to Lemur stretching seems to do a better job since Lemur editor has
been updated and you can do it the way you described, which is nice, but far from perfect, e.g. try the LFO Studio.
I still hope for improvements and try patience.

So is it possible to use the ipad creations on the Lemur? I am new to Lemur- it arrives this week (Jazzmutant one that is)

Oh and if it is not then definitely +1

osha wrote:So is it possible to use the ipad creations on the Lemur? I am new to Lemur- it arrives this week (Jazzmutant one that is)

Oh and if it is not then definitely +1

Lemur Editor has been updated and you can choose between iPad, or Legacy depending which one you uploaded and you can stretch templates..., but
As I said, I tried to stretch some iPad templates to legacy Lemur with moslty unuseable results. It seems though that it does work on some as "Imza"
mentioned. Try yourself and see...

Oh and I just found this:

nick_liine » 18 Dez 2011 15:53
Hi guys,

The suggestion to keep backwards compatibility with the Lemur Daemon has been duly noted. As is the request to permit stretching from iPad resolution to Legacy resolution.

Thanks,
Nick

So I guess liine did notice and react regarding the stretching from iPad to legacy Lemur with the latest Lemur editor 3.1.0..., I just hope it is possible to improve it somehow, if possible...

Edit: I just had another terrible day trying to stretch iPad apps to legacy Lemur. It-is-a-PAIN!!! Not only stretching doen´t work, also trying to change objects size does not work right...frustrating

Liine - there are many many users who would appreciate this working. Can it be done? The Jazzmutant website does redirect me here after all

EDIT: Actually I just used the latest editor and it does do exactly what it says- it makes the templates useable on the Legacy. I don't understand why you had a miserable day? The AB Lemur Bundle is perfect!

Does this mean I can just use version 3.1 now called the Lemur Editor and get rid of the 2.1 'Jazz Editor' I wonder? I saw elsewhere here that Liine recommended that Legacy users use the Jazz Editor.

osha wrote:Liine - there are many many users who would appreciate this working. Can it be done? The Jazzmutant website does redirect me here after all

EDIT: Actually I just used the latest editor and it does do exactly what it says- it makes the templates useable on the Legacy. I don't understand why you had a miserable day? The AB Lemur Bundle is perfect!

Does this mean I can just use version 3.1 now called the Lemur Editor and get rid of the 2.1 'Jazz Editor' I wonder? I saw elsewhere here that Liine recommended that Legacy users use the Jazz Editor.

Not sure if you refer to me here, or someone else?!?
If it works for you personally (on some templates) for whatever reason, great for you, but it does not for others, so please accept the facts before you offend other users ">>>I don't understand why you had a miserable day?".

Just two stretch examples from iPad to legacy hardware with latest Lemur editor 3.1.0 where it does not stretch correctly:
LFO Studio
[img]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZVGHxTFJgII/T7eN4XJpmDI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/BoS79DkVLOA/s842/LFO%2520Studio%2520stretch%2520iPad_legacy.jpg[/img]

Microtonic remake (actually this one should be simple, but it doesn´t stretch right):
[img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-yQsZVn6L8E0/T7eQUU_u9qI/AAAAAAAAAHg/izzC8Nf_kOc/s825/Mictrotonic_iPad_legacy%2520stretch.jpg[/img]

Hi
There are something that it just can't do - like make objects smaller than minimum size , I suspect that may be the issue with the 'M,S' Buttons.
Not sure if font sizes are or should be scaled, so that is going to be difficult.

You will still have to do a bit of adjustment yourself. The fact of the matter is that not all projects will be able to be shrunk to fit on hardware Lemur
Particularly if it has been designed exclusively for the iPad (due to minimum sizes etc) unfortunately that is just how it is.
I know I had quite a time stretching the Monemur project to ipad because of it's heavy reliance on maths for some of the sizes etc.

I think it does its best inside the constraints that it has and we just need to do the rest if we want - I have a hardware Lemur as well.

Cheers
MM

Thanks for the useful info Macciza, at least I feel some sort of recognition regarding this problem.

There are something that it just can't do - like make objects smaller than minimum size , I suspect that may be the issue with the 'M,S' Buttons.
Not sure if font sizes are or should be scaled, so that is going to be difficult.

I noticed that too and it really is a bit of a pain to deal with, but I guess as much as we wish it would be improved, we have to deal with it somehow, as well as the
additional time for resizing things that are resizeable.
Meanwhile I bought an iPad 2 for good money, which makes things a bit more comfortable, but this "thin dang" is so small that I allways want to have stuff on my "real" lemur.

mism wrote: It´s really painful not to use new creations such as the new AB Lemur Bundle for the original Lemur hardware.

Well I thought you were having a miserable day because of this and I couldn't understand as AB Lemur Bundle is not a problem, but I see this is from an earlier post of yours, so apologies. Clearly it's not perfect on many templates and perfect on some!

That is happening simply because the template is too crowded for Legacy. The minimum dimensions of the buttons exceed the space that is provided when you change resolutions. This is a problem that you will unfortunately have to fix yourself.

Example:
iPad width is 1028, Legacy is 800
you have 10 buttons that can only go as small as 100x100, which fits fine on 1028, but when you try to shrink it to 800, it makes them overlap.

i find changin the rez then spreading the controls across two or more pages usually is a good startin point!